One Day I Will Learn
Apr. 10th, 2007 05:22 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
jade_sabre(subtitled: Today Is Not That Day)
Every. Time.
Every time I think, "Oh, I'll see if there's anything new that's worth reading in the HP section of fanfiction.net."
Every time I foolishly wander over to look.
And EVERY DAMN TIME I COME ACROSS A DRAMIONE FIC.
(edit: Disclaimer: This is what I found, just on the first page of HP fanfiction in general. It's titled "Waiting for You" and the summary reads “This might come as a shock to you, but I’m going to say it anyway.” He took a big breathe and then exhaled. “I want you to marry me.” Clearly I still have a lesson to learn about clicking on stories with typos in the summaries, but still. It was just an innocent, curious click! /edit)
PEOPLE. GET OVER YOURSELVES. AND STOP PUTTING THEM TOGETHER.
I mean, you don't even have the slash thing going for you ("but I slash everything that moves together!" well, fine, you're still insane, but at least there's a name for it. "Even Worf/Spot?" NO. GET YOUR SICKO MIND AWAY FROM THE INTERNET). You're just...putting together two characters...who have less than any chemistry. Or a chance. You're worse than the Harmonians. I mean, honestly. Geeze.
Okay, I ship Draco/Ginny, which may not be canon either, but at least it hasn't been completely anhiliated by canon. I don't think it would ever happen, but there's the slightest possibility that maybe it might happen. Plus, Ginny's character is fieryredheadtemper+Harrythinksshe'shot, so there's a lot more speculation there.
But Hermione? Hermione and Draco? It's like trying to write a fic in which Ron is not only accepting that Ginny and Draco get together, but where he's also downright excited because hey, he always wanted Draco for a brother! Do you see my point? IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE. (Unless you're an idiot and managed to completely misinterpret the books which, hey, if you're shipping Dramione, there's a chance of that happening.)
I mean, I'll sort of put up with the Harmonians, because they're justenslaved delusional clinging onto some idea that hey, when you first start reading the books, if you somehow missed the Ron/Hermione chemistry, you might think the hero would get the main girl, and it's happened elsewhere, so maybe if you somehow missed the anvils it could happen. I still disagree with them, but there's toleration, and of course, the dreaded pity. (I don't pity the ones who left the series because they felt JKR betrayed them, though. Leave the series because Hermione went wacko in HBP, not because the author had a plan in mind that disagreed with yours.)
But Dramionians? They just look "OH PROTAGONIST AND ANTAGONIST THAT ALWAYS WORKS OUT" except it just doesn't. There is nowhere, in all of the books, the slightest hint of proof that Hermione and Draco would ever get along. And not just romantically; platonically, they're not suited for each other. Hermione looks down on Draco because he's a bully and Draco looks down on Hermione because she's a Mudblood. Seeing as she's not going to be able to change that, it would require drastic character change on Draco's part for them even to be able to approach each other. I mean, Hermione's been dealing with bullies her whole life; she's a smart kid who gets ostracized because of her zeal. She is never going to warm to Draco until he stops being such a jackass. And while that might happen, it's not going to be for a long time, and by then she'll have married Ron. Because they do have chemistry, and they are friends, and while he might be a prat she is attracted to him and thus they are together.
I generally like to think of myself as not a shiphater, but I manage that by avoiding other people's ships. I mean, I ship some weird things, mostly for experimental writing value (or reallyhot smex good authors), and so I try to be open-minded to other people's ideas. And many of my ships are not canon, because I do like things that explore different characters--but the exploration must have some canonical basis. I ship Zuko and Katara because hey, you start with their canon characters, you build on it, and you could end up with a relationship--based on who they are as people. Same with Kakasaku--they might not be together in canon, but once she growns up, you can take Kakashi the genius Copy Ninja and Sakura the really smart nurse, and throw them in a room together, and they'll talk, and maybe something could blossom.
If you threw Hermione and Draco in a room together, Draco would end up petrified on the floor, unless he's miraculously able to cast Avada Kedavra on her first (no, I don't think he'd have qualms about killing her, like he did about Dumbledore--well, maybe, but certainly not about Cruciating her). Maybe, maybe, if I were to find a really good author who wrote a post-Hogwarts fic, started out with a canonical treatment of the characters, made them grow in believable ways, and then brought them together, I would respect it.
But while Draco and Hermione are at Hogwarts--and I can say this now especially since we have six books out about their time there together--there is no chance in hell that they would ever get together. Ever. Period. And that goes beyond the fact that we have documentation of what was going on during those six years, and thus it's a pretty safe bet nothing happened. It goes down to how they've interacted, and more importantly, who they are as characters.
Wow. I ranted on about that a lot longer than I intended to. Recently I've discovered that I can still discuss Harry Potter at great lengths without even having to gear myself up for it. It must be more deeply ingrained on my brain than I realized.
*wanders off to find some Snape/Narcissa*
Every. Time.
Every time I think, "Oh, I'll see if there's anything new that's worth reading in the HP section of fanfiction.net."
Every time I foolishly wander over to look.
And EVERY DAMN TIME I COME ACROSS A DRAMIONE FIC.
(edit: Disclaimer: This is what I found, just on the first page of HP fanfiction in general. It's titled "Waiting for You" and the summary reads “This might come as a shock to you, but I’m going to say it anyway.” He took a big breathe and then exhaled. “I want you to marry me.” Clearly I still have a lesson to learn about clicking on stories with typos in the summaries, but still. It was just an innocent, curious click! /edit)
PEOPLE. GET OVER YOURSELVES. AND STOP PUTTING THEM TOGETHER.
I mean, you don't even have the slash thing going for you ("but I slash everything that moves together!" well, fine, you're still insane, but at least there's a name for it. "Even Worf/Spot?" NO. GET YOUR SICKO MIND AWAY FROM THE INTERNET). You're just...putting together two characters...who have less than any chemistry. Or a chance. You're worse than the Harmonians. I mean, honestly. Geeze.
Okay, I ship Draco/Ginny, which may not be canon either, but at least it hasn't been completely anhiliated by canon. I don't think it would ever happen, but there's the slightest possibility that maybe it might happen. Plus, Ginny's character is fieryredheadtemper+Harrythinksshe'shot, so there's a lot more speculation there.
But Hermione? Hermione and Draco? It's like trying to write a fic in which Ron is not only accepting that Ginny and Draco get together, but where he's also downright excited because hey, he always wanted Draco for a brother! Do you see my point? IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE. (Unless you're an idiot and managed to completely misinterpret the books which, hey, if you're shipping Dramione, there's a chance of that happening.)
I mean, I'll sort of put up with the Harmonians, because they're just
But Dramionians? They just look "OH PROTAGONIST AND ANTAGONIST THAT ALWAYS WORKS OUT" except it just doesn't. There is nowhere, in all of the books, the slightest hint of proof that Hermione and Draco would ever get along. And not just romantically; platonically, they're not suited for each other. Hermione looks down on Draco because he's a bully and Draco looks down on Hermione because she's a Mudblood. Seeing as she's not going to be able to change that, it would require drastic character change on Draco's part for them even to be able to approach each other. I mean, Hermione's been dealing with bullies her whole life; she's a smart kid who gets ostracized because of her zeal. She is never going to warm to Draco until he stops being such a jackass. And while that might happen, it's not going to be for a long time, and by then she'll have married Ron. Because they do have chemistry, and they are friends, and while he might be a prat she is attracted to him and thus they are together.
I generally like to think of myself as not a shiphater, but I manage that by avoiding other people's ships. I mean, I ship some weird things, mostly for experimental writing value (or really
If you threw Hermione and Draco in a room together, Draco would end up petrified on the floor, unless he's miraculously able to cast Avada Kedavra on her first (no, I don't think he'd have qualms about killing her, like he did about Dumbledore--well, maybe, but certainly not about Cruciating her). Maybe, maybe, if I were to find a really good author who wrote a post-Hogwarts fic, started out with a canonical treatment of the characters, made them grow in believable ways, and then brought them together, I would respect it.
But while Draco and Hermione are at Hogwarts--and I can say this now especially since we have six books out about their time there together--there is no chance in hell that they would ever get together. Ever. Period. And that goes beyond the fact that we have documentation of what was going on during those six years, and thus it's a pretty safe bet nothing happened. It goes down to how they've interacted, and more importantly, who they are as characters.
Wow. I ranted on about that a lot longer than I intended to. Recently I've discovered that I can still discuss Harry Potter at great lengths without even having to gear myself up for it. It must be more deeply ingrained on my brain than I realized.
*wanders off to find some Snape/Narcissa*
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Date: 2007-04-10 10:57 pm (UTC)I tried to qualify the Draco/Ginny with a "no chance in hell" thing either. My thing is that we know less about Ginny, so it's not quite as impossible...even though they're both Never Going to Happen. I'm quite comfortable knowing that it's not going to happen, canonically speaking. However, going with the "put them in a room and see what happens"...under very special circumstances, it might. (Read: circumstances that are apparently only in my brain, and thus need coaxing in order to see the light of day.)
I mean, back in the day, I only haunted Sugar Quill, so I was mostly safe from all the shipping wars and the nonsense fandom wank--I read HQoW and After the End and enjoyed my time (wait: I do know where the idea of Draco/Ginny came from. Curse you, Arabella!). Then I came to livejournal, and started discovering all the stuff I had missed...including Draco/Hermione. And Worf/Spot. And then my brain exploded.
I think I read yours and greatly enjoyed them--I'll have to double-check though.
I know! I'm especially having trouble finding post-HBP ones where he's not evil. Gah. You'd think the Snape fans would be sticking up for him...oh, well, I found this one-shot (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3117086/1/) earlier today, and it was pretty good.
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Date: 2007-04-10 11:02 pm (UTC)Haha. Sugar Quill? I've never heard of that place before. I only frequent Fanfiction.net (ugh, horrible..) -- I honestly didn't know there were other fanfiction archives when I was younger.
Ooh, haha. I wanted to make an entire damn series..
HOMG THANKS. You have no idea how much I like my Potions master :D
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Date: 2007-04-10 11:47 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-11 02:15 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-04-11 02:13 am (UTC)Oh, man, I loved the Sugar Quill. Oh, to be thirteen and wanting nothing more than to make friends with Arabella again...
I only found ff.net because of Star Wars Chicks, and I only found Sugar Quill because I found the authors on ff.net first. And from there I occasionally went to Schnoogle. But rarely.
LOL, I completely understand. (Part of my Draco love is for the potential for foils in his life. And then, if you parallel unrequired!Snape/Lily with Draco/Ginny...the possibilities are endless! XD)